For those that didn't update to vue 8.4 beta yet i would say, don't do it. I did and my vue started crashing where it normally would not do so. Ok that can happen you say and i agree. But here comes the scary part, i hit the undo last update and that ended up with vue not working all together and had to reinstall the application, came back with application error 2 whatever that means. So first i thought let's try put the last know backup from windows back, one from yesterday. Vue still don't start, then i thought let's just do the previous update and that told me the application wasn't in the folder. So a reinstall was the only thing left. I moved my folder with all my stuff first before that got lost also. Vue started again, moved my folder back again and i am good to go. Except for the scene i was working on in vue 8.4, could not be loaded, a scene i made with the previous update loaded fine. So again, don't get the beta update for vue 8.4 i tell you